WWE Hall of Famer Stevie Ray joined former superstar Ryback on Conversations With The Big Guy to talk all things pro-wrestling. In their conversation, Stevie Ray discloses why he never joined the WWE, claiming that they were the “other team,” and not wanting to turn his back on WCW so soon after they had been shut down.

When I stopped WCW, I went overseas for three-and-a-half years. I was going back and forth over there. I didn’t want to go to WWF; as a matter of fact, the last WCW Nitro I didn’t even attend and they sent me a ticket, but I was always in the mindset of this is competition to me. This is NFL vs AFL or National League vs American League in baseball. WCW vs WWF, to be honest with you bro, I didn’t want to go out like a b**ch.

We had been fighting for the team, but when I heard Vince McMahon had come in and stuff like that – which I knew was coming. It’s like, you saw the writing on the wall and you put it in the back of your mind, but at the end of the day I knew it was going to happen. But I didn’t attend the last show because my brother [Booker T] said that they are going to be auditioning people. I told him that he should do it, but I’m done

He also mentions how he didn’t want Harlem Heat to be watered down in the WWE tag division.

This is the thing, I wanted people to remember Harlem Heat as an ass-kicking tag team of color, you see what I’m saying? I didn’t want us to be something else. I didn’t want us to turn into a Doink the Clown, so I’m not saying that they would have done this with Harlem Heat, but I didn’t want to lose the edge that we once had as Harlem Heat. But then I had seen what they did with my brother and his character, I was like, okay, it is what it is. Vince McMahon does things his way, but I’m not mad, it’s his show and he can do whatever he wants to do. But I just wanted people to be honest and break it down. I wanted people to remember Harlem Heat the way that they remember them today.

Check out Stevie Ray’s full interview here.